I used to think same-day lays were a myth.
Back when I got friendzoned left and right, I couldn’t believe there were guys who could see a hot girl, go meet her and have sex with her in the same day.
It seemed like something that happens in movies but not in real life. How could you possibly get a girl to feel so comfortable with you that she would be willing to get naked with you the very first time you’re meeting up? Oh boy was I wrong.
The first time I experienced this was with a German girl who came to LatAm for one semester. I already had a bias because many of my friends (who were all engineers) did a semester abroad in high school and all of them said the same thing about German girls: they’re very straightforward.
So in the name of experimentation, I took this girl out on a date after matching on a dating app and started applying everything I had been reading up on game. The results? she was in my bed ~4 hours after meeting up.
She was not a super model, actually I would rate her a 4, maybe a 5 in nice clothes and high heels, BUT the fact that sleeping with a girl on the first date was possible was mind-blowing for me.
As I said, at the time I was just starting to learn game, so my “skill” was not the sole culprit. After repeating the experience several times over, I reached the conclusion that there are 3 major factors that determine if you’ll sleep with a girl during your first date:
1) Your Skill In Game
You don’t have to be an expert but you have to have some level of game. Can’t get her to sleep with you if you don’t even make a move. The more game you have, the less you’ll have to rely on the remaining 2 factors, which means you’ll date higher-quality and have more flexibility thanks to your skill, knowledge and experience.
In my case, I was a noob but I was willing to try things out to see if they worked or not. The fact that the other two factors were playing in my favor helped me immensely.
But this wouldn’t have happened if I hadn’t focused on excitement over comfort, or if I had been too hesitant to kiss her, or if I hadn’t invited her to come to my room. I was not smooth in any of these but I did them anyway.
2) SMV Difference
The bigger the difference in SMV (Sexual market value) between you and her, the more she’s naturally inclined to have sex with you right off the bat vs making you “work” for it.
In my case, I would call myself a 7 at that time: not amazing but also not horrible. I am 1.80m tall, I was not overweight but also not fit and had just graduated with a STEM degree from a rich kids school (which meant I got good job prospects but at that time I was broke and in debt). This girl was a 4, so of course she wanted to put out as soon as possible. Got to show her best before a man in the 7th range changes their mind.
This means that the bigger the SMV difference, the less skill in game you’ll need. This is why I suggest “playing the game on easy mode” first, similar to how the first time you enter the gym you start with small weights. You wouldn’t expect a newbie to bench press 200 Kg on his first day. Lower the difficulty level, perfect your technique and then take on more challenge. For me this meant dating the 4s and 5s first, and keep working my way up. I’m currently able to date 8s on the regular and still learning.
Most guys have zero knowledge of how a girl’s menstrual cycle works or why knowing it matters. In short, the first half of the month she’s drooling over rough sex with bad boys and the second half of the month she’s longing for romance and cuddles with a boyfriend. So yeah, timing matters if you’re trying to sleep with her on the first date.
Since you cannot know where she is in her cycle during the first date (unless she explicitly tells you for some reason, probably mental illness if she does), the most useful way to view this factor is as “luck”.
Behave as if she was in the first half of the month and sometimes you’ll be right, sometimes you’ll be wrong, but if you behave as if she was in the second half of the month then 100% of the times you’ll go home on your own.
As always, when it comes to social interactions there are no guarantees, but from my observations these are the factors that matter the most if you want to sleep with a girl on the first date.
The bigger the SMV difference, the less skill in game you’ll need. The more skill in game you have, the higher quality girls you’ll be able to sleep with. Or you can end up hitting the jackpot if the date happens to occur during the first half of her cycle.
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